harold camping.
2012. wtbs doomsday prophecy.
maze's ramblings.
What I really think the verse is depicting is the arrogance of people that are not in peace and security and simply declare it for political reasons.
True, Sab. Isn't that what Neville Chamberlain though he was going to get by appeasing Hitler? Peace? How'd that work out for the English? Oh yeah....
harold camping.
2012. wtbs doomsday prophecy.
maze's ramblings.
Maybe this is our false sense of peace and security....we are becoming more and more tuned out to the world because we are overwhelmed by it.
Just putting an idea out there...what do you think?
That's an interesting theory, still thinking. However, media presentation in this day and age of corproratized mass production seems to be geared on wealth and greed. What sells. Sex. Violence. But sex and violence were always there. According to the Bible, God destroyed entire civilizations because of their hedonistic and violent behavior. But nowadays we have the technology to broadcast it, so I think while such things are very prevelant today, the power of technology has been harnessed by corporations as a powerful selling tool. Steam was always around, but what happened when man harnessed it to power a locomotive?
But you make a very valid point as regards exposure therapy and the connection to how we respond to violence/gore in the media.
Then again, I grew up watching Ren & Stimpy so what the hell do I know?
harold camping.
2012. wtbs doomsday prophecy.
maze's ramblings.
unshackled - You and Cheez have my permission to derail any thread I create. And where the devil is Cheez, anyway?
harold camping.
2012. wtbs doomsday prophecy.
maze's ramblings.
I was just about to type "Where's Terry?" and WAH-LAA..... there he is.
Like a good independant thinker, Terry is there....
The more I look into history the more what you guys are saying makes sense. In the past 2,000 years everyone and their grandmothers were proclaiming that they would be the ones to see the ending credits on this world. And now they're all dead. Brilliant. But it easy to get sucked up into that extremist line of thinking. But logic is a good cure for that; you just got to accept it and let it do it's thing.
harold camping.
2012. wtbs doomsday prophecy.
maze's ramblings.
The WTS is full of self promoting propaganda.
thetrueone - This fact is undeniable. Contrary to what the WTBS teach, everyone on earth is NOT familiar with JW teachings. The majority of people who know about the Witnesses only see them as a oddity.
Perhaps they think that if they keep hardcore pushing these wacky teachings, it will result in a self-fulfilling prophecy and come true? Who knows.
harold camping.
2012. wtbs doomsday prophecy.
maze's ramblings.
Peace and Security is a tenent of government which has been around since the days of Jesus. Just another "thing to look out for" that is always there to see in the first place.
Sab, do you think that perhaps this is further reinforcement to Christians to "not put their trust in noble men" and not an actual prophetic saying?
harold camping.
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maze's ramblings.
fade away & unshackled - I myself feel strongly that the media does sensationialize the bad news. Now I'm not downplaying the tsunamis, tornados and other horrific disasters; they actually happened and were devastating. But the news is presented in a Barnum & Bailey format designed to draw revenue.
"The earthquake disaster in Japan is brought to you by Pepsi! We'll be back after the commercial break!"
harold camping.
2012. wtbs doomsday prophecy.
maze's ramblings.
Other than being aware, there is no way of knowing when it will happen. God alone knows when, no one else, not even the son. The bible reinforces this time and time again.
I don't think I have a secret code. Or have found any answer to that question.
still thinking - I may not completely agree with your feelings, but I can understand and respect where you're coming from. One thing we can agree on is that if there is a God, and if He is going to bring about some actual sort of Judgment Day, and if the Bible is indeed correct, than human organizations need to stop trying to figure out cryptic math and goofy magic 8-ball predictions about when it's going to happen.
harold camping.
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Miz's entire last comment.
Damn, that's good logic. Makes 115% sense. This is one thing that I have struggled with. Honestly more people on this earth are familiar with Catholicism or Islam than the JWs. (not saying the Catholicism and Islam are the right religions, I'm just saying let's face it, you can find them represented more on this earth than the Witnesses.)
harold camping.
2012. wtbs doomsday prophecy.
maze's ramblings.
hope I didn't derail your thread. Gotta keep my mouth shut.
No, not at all, unshackled! I want all viewpoints on this. Hell, I wouldn't even mind hearing from Maze. If you read some of my earlier comments, I myself am torn between belief/disbelief in the Bible. So I completely respect anyone's opinion, athiest, agnostic or believer.
